Job market for four-year bachelor's in science (BS) degree
Job market not easy on BS (Hons) graduates
Lahore, July 28, 2008: Despite the Higher Education
Commission's (HEC's) acceptance of the four-year bachelor's in science (BS)
degree as equivalent of the old master's degree (16 years of education), BS
(honours) degree holders are having problems in getting jobs as they are
considered "less educated".
The graduates said that despite having a
four-year bachelor's degree, they were not accommodated at government or private
offices. They held the HEC and their institution responsible, saying that the BS
(honours) programmes were not properly advertised. Most institutions in the city
started BS (honours) classes with the recommendation of the HEC, as the
commission approved that the degree was equivalent to master's
The graduates said that even the good-scoring students of BS
(honours) at the Punjab University (PU), Government College University (GCU),
Forman Christian College University (FCCU), Beaconhouse National University
(BNU), Lahore University of Management Sciences (LUMS), Fast National University
of Computer and Emerging Sciences, Kinnaird College University (KCU) and the
Lahore College for Women University (LCWU) were among those searching for job
and not getting one because they had a bachelor's degree.
A PU Institute
of Administrative Sciences (IAS) student said that he had a BS (honours) degree
and went for an interview at a bank, but was rejected for not having a master's
degree. "I told the interviewing panel that a four-year bachelor's programme was
equal to the old master's degree and showed them a letter issued by the HEC and
his department in this regard, but they did not listen to me," he
Amer Ilyas, a BS (honours) student at the PU Institute of
Communication Studies, said that there was confusion among various PU
departments about BS (honours) programmes. He said that according to rules, a BS
(honours) degree was equal to an old master's degree, but a number of
departments were offering two-year master's programmes after the BS (honours).
He said that wherever the graduates applied for job, employers demanded a
master's degree. He said that sometimes, government institutions also demanded
an HEC letter for the validity of their degrees. He said that foreign
universities recognised their degrees, but Pakistani institutions did
Sadaf Sadique, a student of LCWU, said that the HEC and even
universities' administrations had not properly briefed institutions about the BS
(honours) programmes. She said that universities only advertised it during
admission days. She said that LCWU was offering bachelor programmes in 35
departments, and hundreds of girls were doing four-year BS
Rules are known: HEC Quality Assurance Adviser Dr Riaz Qureshi
said that the commission's rules suggested that a four-year
bachelor's degree was equal to an old master's degree. He said that bachelor's
was a four-year programme in almost every country, which was why the HEC started
it in Pakistan in 2003. "We have advertised about it in newspapers, and have
also written to our affiliated institutions," he said, adding that they had also
sent a letter to the Public Service Commission in this regard.
Communication Adviser Arfa Sarfraz said that the university had been receiving
such complains, and sometimes institutions inquired about their degree. She said
that all universities of the city should start a joint campaign to introduce
their bachelor's degree programmes in the market.
No 2-year bachelor's:
LCWU Mass Communication Department Head Dr Anjum Zia said that most colleges of
Punjab had been offering two-year bachelor's programmes, while universities were
offering four-year programmes, which was confusing for employers.
suggested that all colleges should start four-year bachelor's programmes to
remove the confusion. She said that the HEC and the media should guide
institutions on four-year degree programmes.
PU Registrar Dr Naeem Ahmed
Khan said that the PU had advertised about BS (honours) programmes. He said that
he would meet the Education secretary and other representatives on July 28 on
the BS (honours) students' issues. He said that the PU was giving jobs to BS
(honours) graduates. Daily Times
"Thanks for giving such a nice opportunity to us and i hope it will beneficial for us."
Name: Ansari Md.Haris Shafique
City, Country: Mumbai,India
"I am Naveed Satti from Karachi.I am a student of BS(4 year) program.It is lot of confusion on the mind of the people and the concern student that what may be our degree is not equal to master and more that we will must do ms of one year after this.It is the problem of our education system which is not able to properly announced the rule and regulation of education in pakistan.I think HEC should announce properly.By this the whole confusion will remove.and also explain that after two years of BS we can take degree of Graduation.and more that our MS will equal to M.Phil which we will do in two years.."
Name: Naveed Ahmed Satti
City, Country: Karachi, Pakistan
"my name is samreen and i am also a student of L.C.W.U and a student of final year,i am doing B.S(hons)in app.psy.My querry is can we opt for M.Phil after competing our Honours or not??what does HEC say about it? "
City, Country: lahore, Pakistan
"i m hammad AND doing bs hons chemistry but not confirm for my job as i heard some negative oponions. "
City, Country: wah cantt, Pakistan
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PU faculty opposes media studies dept in Gujranwala
Lahore: The controversy over establishment of a separate department of
Mass Communication and Media Studies by the Punjab University administration at
the Gujranwala Campus of the university has deepened after some faculty members
passed a resolution against the new independent department.
It is learnt
that the resolution was passed during a meeting at the Punjab University's
Institute of Communication Studies (ICS), which was chaired by its director Prof
Dr Mugheesuddin Sheikh a couple of weeks ago.
A senior PU professor,
seeking anonymity, said the concerns of some of the ICS faculty members were
forwarded to Vice-Chancellor Prof Dr Mujahid Kamran. He said two faculty members
of the ICS had expressed serious concerns over the issue, saying that by opening
a separate department, the university would be awarding two different degrees to
its students while no other department of mass communication was compatible to
the ICS in the sub-continent.
Quoting examples of the PU Law College and
the Hailey College of Commerce, the ICS faculty members maintained that though
disciplines of law and commerce were being offered at the university's
Gujranwala Campus, yet there were no separate departments established for this
"The PU is not offering two different degrees in these
disciplines and why it was all set to offer two different degrees to its
students in mass communication?," questioned one of the ICS faculty members. He
said at the ICS, the students were following the semester system whereas there
was an annual system at Gujranwala Campus. He was of the view that there was a
common perception among the faculty members that the move was aimed at
accommodating a recently retired ICS faculty member, Dr Muhammad Shafiq
Jullandhry, by appointing him as head of the department at Gujranwala
It is important to mention that during the ICS faculty meeting,
one of the faculty members clarified that the faculty was not concerned if he
(Dr Jullandhry) was appointed as coordinator programme.
A PU official,
while commenting over the issue, said the ICS director had never sent
proceedings of faculty meetings to the VC in the past, adding that sending
minutes of this particular meeting was an evidence of the fact that he himself
was against the establishment of a separate department at Gujranwala Campus. He
said a notification, regarding appointment of Dr Jullandhry, was issued by the
Registrar Prof Dr Muhammad Naeem Khan when the VC was out of country, adding
that Dr Kamran had not allowed his (Dr Jullandhry's) appointment as head of
department at PU Gujranwala Campus.
When contacted, Dr Naeem refused to
comment saying: "I am busy today you can discuss this issue on Monday but not
today". Dr Muhammad Shafiq Jullandhry was not available for comments.
Dr Mujahid Kamran confirmed that he had received proceedings of the ICS faculty
members meeting in which some members had expressed concerns over establishment
of a separate department of mass communication at Gujranwala Campus. He said he
had forwarded the proceedings to the director general (DG) Gujranwala Campus for
comments, adding further details would be available after he received a reply
from the DG. The News
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PU working on developing bio-diesel
Lahore: Punjab University Institute of Chemistry is experimenting in its
laboratory on ethyl alcohol, which is obtained from molasses, to get bio-diesel.
This fuel is cheaper and cause 70 percent less pollution than other fuels. Over
80 percent vehicles in Brazil use this fuel.
PU Faculty of Science Dean Prof
Dr Jamil Anwar Chaudhry expressed these views while briefing about the
performance of the institute in a ceremony here on Saturday.
waste material of sugar industries, can be converted into bio-diesel and used as
fuel in vehicles.
He said chemical industries are getting molasses from sugar
industries and converting it into ethyl alcohol and a lot of money is being
earned by exporting it and Crystalline Chemical Industries of Sargodha is worth
mentioning here in this regard. He said there is dire need to create awareness
among sugar industries so that molasses and money could be saved by converting
it into fuel by chemical process.
He said government had earlier introduced
ECO-I fuel at petrol pumps as an experiment which could not be developed due to
proper advertisement among the masses and the project was stopped. Dr Jamil said
the institute has the capacity to provide technical consultancy for the cleaning
of waste water at each level. He said the institute had been providing maximum
analytical facilities to pharmaceutical and other national industries and this
is not only benefiting the industries but also helping to highlight the
country's image at international level. He said the institute will offer special
courses of chemistry in local industry including leather, sugar and textile in
future so that maximum people could benefit from chemistry
Institute's Scientific Officer Waheed-uz-Zaman said the institute
had been playing an important role to facilitate industries analytically by
overcoming increasing environmental and water pollution in the country.
said that institute's analytical laboratory is certified of Environmental
Protection Agency (EPA) and all industries are getting tests of their waste
water. The experiments had been taken on recycling of used plastic bottles and
shopping bags according to international standards and if experiments could be
carried out on maximum level in the light of these experiments, it can helpful
in reducing importing prices and reducing environmental pollution. Special tests
on industrial waste water and drinking water are being carried out in the
institute's laboratory. PU Institute of Chemistry is also working on saving the
marine life from the harmful effects of polluted water of the industries by
utilizing the wheat straw, rice husk, corncob and low quality coal.
as 72 research papers of the faculty members of the institute of chemistry were
published in international research journals last year, Dr Jamil added. The Nation
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